NJPW Delta (Force) Ballot Comments...
Posted by jdw (63.73.69.31) on October 30, 2000 at 15:25:06:


(( This is still open for change but I figured I would put it out so you folks can start voting. (I will also put it onto the web page). ))
Woo-hoo... time to add more stuff~! :)

I'll use the same NOTE for changes that should be made to the match listing or for additional matches to be added.
 

(( Tokyo Dome – January 4 Shows Ultimo Dragon vs. Jushin Liger – "Fantastic Story" (1/4/93 – IWGP Jr. Title) ))
Ugh... this is such a "not good" match. This was back in Dragon's "badly screw up a move in every big match" phase. He was really off his game here. Their match at the 12/95 Super J-Cup was their best, and their match on the 1/97 Dome show was their second best. This was their worst "full match" and shouldn't get a vote.
 

(( Kenji Mutoh vs. Masahiro Chono – "Fantastic Story" (1/4/93 – NWA Title) ))
NOTE: This was a IWGP vs. NWA Title match.

I liked this match a lot. The same match in Sumo Hall or Budokan would have had much better heat and came across as a better match because of it. As it was, this is one of the more enjoyable NJ Heavy matches of the decade, typical NJ Heavy killing the time early, picked up for lots of nice spots, both Chono and Mutoh working very hard. This is probably Chono's best all around match after his injury. A worthy major Title vs. Title match. I'll have to pop it in the VCR to watch again and refresh myself, but this is a strong candidate to make my list to keep it from being insanely junior slanted.
 

(( Sting vs. Hiroshi Hase – "Fantastic Story" (1/4/93) ))
This has no business getting a vote. "Good match" at best. Hase many better matches in the decade... as has Sting.

NOTE: The 1/4/93 Dome show had two other matches worthy of consideration:

01/04/93 Tenryu vs. Choshu
01/04/93 Steiners vs. Hawk & Power
The first is an old style "aging heavies" match with them beating the crap out of each other. Intense, heated, like to aging heavyweight boxers throwing bombs at each other. I liked it a lot, as both were all fired up for this key match of the NJ vs. WAR feud. This is the type of match that plays _better_ in a Dome - it's a epic spectacle.

The second is another one where they were throwing bombs. Crap finish takes it down a notch, but what they did before that was fine. Easily the best Hellraisers match, and one of the better Steiner matches when they didn't have Hase or Mutoh carrying things.

(( Hiroshi Hase/Kensuke Sasaki vs. Steiners Brothers – "Battlefield" (1/4/94) ))
Typical Steiners vs. Hase & Sasaki. I've always liked the 3/91 match for freshness, but this was fine as well.

(( Shinya Hashimoto vs. Masahiro Chono – "Battlefield" (1/4/94 – IWGP Title) ))
Decent "long Hashimoto title defense", but not one I could vote for. The Dome never was a great setting for those type of Hash matches.

(( Hiroshi Hase/Kenji Mutoh vs. Steiner Brothers – "Battle Seven" (1/4/95 - IWGP Tag titles) ))
Another excellent match... but I was tired of the Steiners by this point. It's a good pick for a Best of Steiners tape... but I don't think I'd vote for it here.

(( Norio Honaga vs. Great Sasuke – "Battle Seven" (1/4/95 - IWGP Jr. Title) ))
This has no business being on the list... and I like both of these guys.

(( Shinya Hashimoto vs. Kensuke Sasaki – "Battle Seven" (1/4/95 - IWGP Title) ))
Not one of my favorite Hashimoto matches...

(( Koji Kanemoto vs. Yuji Nagata – "Battle Seven" (1/4/95) ))
Hmmm... this wasn't even a good match. Koji almost kills himself at the finish as well.

(( Nobuhiko Takada vs. Kenji Mutoh (1/4/96 – IWGP Title) ))
It was nice to see Takada win the title. Other than that, this is one of Mutoh's worst performances of his career. I'd just as soon never watch wrestling again than vote for this thing.

(( Kojo Kanemoto vs. Jushin Liger (1/4/96 - IWGP Jr. Title) ))
"Good" match... but not up to the level of great juniors matches.

(( Vader vs. Antonio Inoki (1/4/96) ))
I love the HELL out of this match. This is New Japan's equiv of the 10/95 Kawada vs. Albright. Far and away the greatest performance of Vader's career... and all the credit in the world to Inoki for taking a man sized ass kicking.

(( Shinya Hashimoto vs. Ricki Choshu (1/4/97) ))
So-so match. Their 8/96 G1 match was worlds better.

(( Shinjiro Ohtani vs. Yosihiro Tajiri (1/4/97) ))
"Very good" match. It's should get a vote as dozens of juniors matches were better.

(( Jushin Liger vs. Shinjiro Ohtani (1/4/97 – J Crown) ))
NOTE: This was Liger beating Dragon to win the J Crown
The Liger vs. Dragon match was damn good. It would have been better in a non-Dome setting.

(( Ultimo Dragon vs. Shinjiro Ohtani – (1/4/98 – IWGP Jr. Title) ))
Great match. They had a better one, though... but this was damn good.

(( Nagoya Ogawa vs. Shinya Hashimoto (1/4/99) ))
Ugh. No votes from me...

(( Tokyo Dome – April Shows - Great Sasuke vs. Jushin Liger (4/20/96- IWGP Jr. Title) ))
Excellent match. This again would be better in a smaller setting... but it was damn good.

(( Genricho Tenryu vs. Tatsumi Fujinami (4/20/96) ))
This was an intense match with Fujinami having the second "hardest to watch" juice job in wrestling history as his nose was smashed to bits. But this is just a "good" match. Anyone voting this one of the 20 best NJ matches of the decade obviously either (i) has not watched enough NJ, or (ii) is a loon. ;)

(( Great Muta vs. Hakushi (4/20/96) ))
Oh christ... this match was HORRIBLE! I liked the 4/96 Dome show, but this match sucked it hard. Oh boy... someone was hitting the weed here...

(( Shinya Hashimoto vs. Nobhiko Takada (4/20/96 - IWGP Title) ))
Excellent match. Not as good of a match as they could have had if they really put their mind to it... but an excellent match. Might make my list...

(( Nagoya Ogawa vs. Shinya Hashimoto (4/12/97) ))
This match wasn't even "good". Their rematch in 5/97 was the "good" one... and even it has no business being on this list.

(( Shinjiro Ohtani vs. El Samurai (4/12/97 – UWA Title) ))
"Good" match. These two had better... far better. No votes for this in my book.

(( Jushin Liger vs. Great Sasuke (4/12/97- IWGP Jr. Title) ))
Not as good as their prior three matches. No votes...

(( Osamu Nishmura/Shinya Hashimoto vs. Masahiro Chono/Kenji Mutoh (4/4/98)
Keiji Muto vs. Don Frye (4/10/99 - IWGP Title) ))
I don't think either of these are NJ MOTYCs...
 

(( Tokyo Dome – October Shows - Jushin Liger vs. Naoki Sano – "NJ vs. UWFi" (10/9/95 - IWGP Jr. Title) ))
"Good" match. Way too overrated to be on this list... but a "good" match.

(( Kenji Mutoh vs. Nobohiko Takada – "NJ vs. UWFi" (10/9/95 - IWGP Title) ))
Shouldn't be on the list.

(( Naoya Ogawa vs. Shinya Hashimoto (10/11/99) ))
Ugh...

(( Koji Kanemoto/Minoru Tanaka vs. Shinjiro Ohtani/Tetsuhito Takiawa (10/11/99 - IWGP Jr. Tag Titles) ))
Pretty choice, but Domes just aren't good setting for juniors matches.

(( Tokyo Dome – Other Shows - Big Van Vader vs. Stan Hansen – "Super Fight" (2/10/90 - IWGP Title) ))
This wasn't even a "good" match.

(( Hiroshi Hase/Kensuke Sasaki vs. Steiners Brothers – "Starcade '91" (3/21/91 – IWGP Tag Titles) ))
Excellent match. The Steiners may have had better matches later, but this one always stands out at the first and the most eye popping. The Steiners finally had a team that "could go" against them, and Hase & Sasaki were just a great, great, great team at the time. At the time just a terrific match.

(( Akira Nogami vs. Jushin Liger – "Starcade '91" (3/21/91 – IWGP Jr. Title) ))
Not exactly one of Liger's best 20 or 30 matches, let only one of the promotion's best 20.

(( Tatsumi Fujinami vs. Ric Flair – "Starcade '91" (3/21/91 – NWA Title) ))
This wasn't exactly "good". Compare this with the Chono vs. Hash and Chono vs. Mutoh from G1 later in the year to get a clue on how so-so this was. It shouldn't get a vote.

(( Other Dome Shows - Wild Pegasus vs. Too Cold Scorpio – Fukoka Dome (5/3/95) ))
I don't recall this is being worthy of a vote. Pegasus had to have had a dozen better matches in NJ...

(( Shinya Hashimoto vs. Kenji Mutoh – Fukoka Dome (5/3/95 – IWGP Title) ))
Sorta "good"... but their G1 Final later in the year blew this away.

(( Kanemoto/Ohtani/Togo/Teioh/Nakajima vs. Sasuke/Samurai/Hamada/Honaga/Delfin – "Strong Style Evolution" at Ogawa Dome (5/3/97) ))
Kinda "nifty"... but only a hint of what this feud could have been. Not quite at the level of the great MPro 10-man tags, though if Yamada had been given enough months to work the feud he had planned, I'd hazzard to guess that they would have cranked out a 10-man tag at some point that blew away the MPro ones.

(( El Samurai vs. Shinjiro Ohtani – "Four Heaven" at Nagowa Dome (9/10/97)
Koji Kanemoto vs. Jushin Liger – "Four Heaven" at Nagowa Dome (9/10/97) ))
These were close to "average" NJ Junior matches than "great" ones.

(( Shinjiro Ohtani vs. Pegasus Kid – "Final Battle Hall" at Fukoka Dome (11/2/97 – J Crown) ))
"Okay", as opposed to "great". Benoit got to show he could still go... but it seemed like a very abriged match with them taking it home quickly at the end and seeming to leave a ton of moves in the holster. They had a far better match for the WCW CW Title.

(( Great Sasuke vs. Jushin Liger – "Rising Next Generation" at Osaka Dome (8/8/98) ))
Er... not one of their better matches.

(( Genricho Tenryu vs. Shinya Hashimoto – "Rising Next Generation" at Osaka Dome (8/8/98) ))
This may just be the _worst_ Tenryu vs. Hash match. Ugh... it wasn't even "good".

(( Kanemoto/Wagner vs. Ohtani/Takaiwa – "Rising Next Generation at Osaka Dome (8/8/98 – Finals of IWGP Jr. Tag Tourney) ))
A hell of a match. A worthy candidate.

(( Super J 1994
Great Sasuke vs. El Samurai – Super J '94 (4/16/94)
Chris Benoit vs. Black Tiger – Super J '94 (4/16/94)
Great Sasuke vs. Jushin Liger – Super J '94 (4/16/94 – Semis)
Great Sasuke vs. Pegasus Kid – Super J '94 (4/16/94 – Finals) ))

The last two are worthy candidates. I think the Sammy vs. Sasuke match has aged so-so the last time I looked at it. "Excellent" match, but not a MOTYC. The Benoit vs. BT never struck me as a "great" match at the time.

(( J Crown Tournament
Shinjiro Ohtani vs. Negro Casas - Quarters (8/3/96) ))
Calling this "good" would be generous. I like Negro a lot, and liked him for years prior to this match. This was wildly disappointing live, and didn't get any better on TV. It shouldn't be on the list.

(( Ultimo Dragon vs. Shinjiro Ohtani - Semis (8/4/96) ))
Great match. Easy Top 20 pick.

(( Great Sasuke vs. El Samurai - Semis (8/4/96) ))
Excellent match. I don't think it's a MOTYC or even close.

(( Great Sasuke vs. Ultimo Dragon - Finals (8/5/96) ))
This could have been close to the level of Dragon vs. Ohtani... but Sasuke crashed landed on the floor. Seeing that live always colors what I think of this match. What they did was very excellent, but not a MOTYC level. Too bad... they had more stuff to run through if they didn't have to take it home too soon.

(( Skydiving J
Super Delfin vs. Taka Michinoku - Skydiving J (6/17/96 – CMLL Welterweight Title)
Dick Togo vs. Jushin Liger - Skydiving J (6/17/96 – British Jr. Title)
Shinjiro Ohtani vs. Kazushi Sakuraba – Skydriving J (6/17/96 - UWA Light Heavyweight Title) ))

I "like" the Ohtani vs. Sakuraba and the Liger vs. Big Dick... but I don't think either were MOTYC level. Fun card... but no blow away matches.

(( Top of the Super Juniors
Jushin Liger vs. Owen Hart - TOSJ '91 (4/27/91) ))
Great match... worthy of Top 20 consideration.

(( Jushin Liger vs. Norio Honaga – TOSJ '91 (4/30/91 – Finals, IWGP Jr. Title) ))
Eh... "good" to "very good" match, with a nifty "upset" at the time. But a light year away from a MOTYC.

(( Jushin Liger vs. El Samurai – TOSJ '92 (4/30/92 - Finals) ))
One of Liger's great one man shows. Sammy became a much better worker _later_... but this is probably the high point of Liger's high spot work in the first phase of his "Liger" career.

(( Pegasus Kid vs. El Samurai – TOSJ '93 (6/15/93 - Finals) ))
Excellent... but I've never been quite as blown away by it as others. Better than come of the Pegasus matches listed earlier...

(( Jushin Liger vs. Super Delfin – TOSJ '94 (6/13/94 – Finals) ))
**** tops. Not a MOTYC, and not really worthy of being on the list...

(( Jushin Liger vs. Tatsuhito Takaiwa – TOSJ '95 (5/26/97) ))
Er... ugh.

NOTE - the year is off for the TOSJ designation.

(( Shinjiro Ohtani vs. El Samurai - TOSJ '95 (6/23/95)
Pegasus Kid vs. Black Tiger - TOSJ '95 (7/4/95)
Pegasus Kid vs. El Samurai - TOSJ '95 (7/7/95)
Pegasus Kid vs. Black Tiger – TOSJ '95 (7/13/95 - Semis)
Shinjiro Ohtani vs. Koji Kanemoto - TOSJ '95 (7/13/95 - Semis)
Chris Benoit vs. Shinjiro Ohtani – TOSJ '95 (7/13/95 - Finals) ))

I didn't think this edition had any blow away matches. Pegasus vs. Sammy was really choice, but it was also a 30:00 draw that was cut down for TV and tape. The Ohtani vs. Koji might have been the best... but I don't know if any of this is what I would call strong MOTYC level stuff.

(( Jushin Liger vs. El Samurai – TOSJ '96 (6/11/96 - Semis)
Black Tiger vs. Pegasus Kid – TOSJ '96 (6/11/96 - Semis)
Black Tiger vs. Jushin Liger – TOSJ '96 (6/12/96 - Finals) ))

I liked all three of these a whole hell of a lot better than the prior year's stuff. That's my favorite Benoit vs. Eddy match, as the reverse chinlock is worked and sold to simple perfection. The Liger vs. Sammy always struck me as one time when they were on the same wavelength, working move for move as opposed to Liger putting on a show. And I loved the final. The Final and the BT vs. Pegasus are pretty strong candidates to make my list.

(( Jushin Liger vs. Koji Kanemoto TOSJ '97 (6/1/97) ))
I just don't like Liger vs. Koji match. Never have, back to the days of Tigermoto screwing up spots.

(( El Samurai vs. Shinjiro Ohtani TOSJ '97 (6/3/97) ))
I like the way these two work together, but their best match was by far the 1/96 UWA Title match. That makes it, this doesn't.

(( El Samurai vs. Koji Kanemoto – TOSJ '97 (6/5/97 - Finals) ))
I think this was the high point of junior jerking off. Great spots. Really crappy psych. Dean explains the psych in this far better and more entertaining than it actually was. And the move that made the match famous is treated in a fashion that makes it easy for me to leave it off my ballot. If they don't respect the move enough, that I won't respect the match.

(( Shinjiro Ohtani vs. El Samurai – TOSJ '98 (5/19/98)
Koji Kanemoto vs. Kendo Ka Shin – TOSJ '98 (5/23/98)
Shinjiro Ohtani vs. Jushin Liger – TOSJ '98 (5/28/98)
Shinjiro Ohtani vs. Tatsuhito Takaiwa – TOSJ '98 (5/31/98)
Koji Kanemoto vs. Dr. Wagner, Jr. – TOSJ'98 (6/3/98 – Finals) ))

Ohtani vs. Liger was great. The Final was great. I was bored in general by the tourny.

(( Shinjiro Ohtani vs. Minoru Tanaka – TOSJ '99 (5/31/99)
Jushin Liger vs. Koji Kanemoto – TOSJ '99 (5/31/99) ))
See above.

(( G-1
Kenji Mutoh vs. Masa Chono - G-1 '91 (8/11/91 – Finals) ))
Terrific match. Worthy Top 20 candidate given it's quality in the context of it's time.

Someone pointed out the Hash vs. Chono match. They had two, actually. A 30:00 draw and then a "rematch" to break the tie in the Block which Chono won. The draw was probably better, though it took it's time in developing.

(( Masahiro Chono vs. Rick Rude – G-1 '92 (8/12/92 – Finals, NWA title) ))
A bit too long for my taste, and I wasn't a fan of Rude's offense at the time. A excellent old school match, and this was when Rude could be a damn good worker when inspired. It won't make my list, but it's better than many of the matches listed here. Given that, it is a worthy candidate.

(( Masa Chono vs. Tony Halme G-1 '93 (NWA Tournament, 1993 G1 Final) ))
Fujinami met Hase in the Final of the 1993 tourny. It was in the "good" range.

The 1994 G1 had a pair of excellent Koshinaka matches:
08/94 Koshinaka vs. Hashimoto
08/94 Koshinaka vs. Hase
I'd have to look up the dates. Not MOTYC, but pretty nifty excellent matches.

(( Keiji Mutoh vs. Shinya Hashimoto – G-1 '95 (8/15/95 – Finals) ))
Great match. An easy Top 20 pick for me. Probably the NJ Heavy singles match that stands out most in my mind for the decade.
This was a terrific G1 with lots of ***1/2 to **** matches. The Final was the only one that struck me as being on the edge of MOTYC level, but there a ton of other very watchable and entertaining matches in the series. Even Notron had good matches. I'd recommend the 8/19/95 to 9/16/95 NJPW TV shows to anyone as one of the best stretches of TV they had in the decade for heavies.

NOTE: The 1996 G1 had the following matches worthy of consideration:
08/96 Hashimoto vs. Choshu
08/96 Mutoh vs. Yamazaki
08/96 Yamazaki vs. Koshinaka
08/96 Koshinaka vs. Chono
08/96 Koshinaka vs. Mutoh

The first one if the only one I would strongly consider for the list. Epic spectacle live, super heated and dramatic. The other were just excellent matches, with the three Koshinaka matches being testements to one of the most underrated workers of the past 20 years as he worked his way through a difficult Murderers Row of opponents main eventing Sumo Hall three straight nights... and pulling out matches of high quality.

(( Shinya Hashimoto vs. Genichiro Tenryu – G-1 '98 (8/1/98 - Quarters) ))
Wildly overrated.

(( Shinya Hashimoto vs. Satoshi Kojima - G-1'98 (8/2/98 – Semis) ))
I like both of these guys. This wasn't a great match. Very good... but not excellent.

(( Shinya Hashimoto vs. Kazuo Yamazaki – G-1 '98 (8/2/98 - Finals) ))
I liked their match the prior year for the IWGP. I think Idol wrote a thesis on the flaws of this match.

(( Other Heavyweight Title Matches
IWGP Title
Riki Choshu vs. Vader (8/19/90 – IWGP Title) ))
Er... this really wasn't all that great.

NOTE: The 11/01/90 Choshu vs. Hashimoto is probably the best example of Established Star vs. Young Lion pysch and drama that NJ kicked out as the Three Musketeers were rising. Not really a MOTYC, but an intense "world title" level match similar to the type of matches Hash would have when he took over Choshu's spot as the top guy in the promotion. I liked it a lot, and that even having to follow to MOTYC on the same card and TV show.

(( Vader vs. Tatsumi Fujinami (1/17/91 - IWGP Title) ))
Fun match. Not a MOTYC... not really worthy of a match. Vader got better later.

There have got to be some non-Dome IWGP matches between 1991 and 1994 worthy of being on the list. Hmm... I'm drawing a blank. Muta's first reign sucked other than the Chono unification match cited. The 12/93 Hash vs. Power and Hash vs. Mutoh were excellent matches, but not at MOTYC level. The 1994 Hash vs. Fujinami and Choshu vs. Hash matches were simple and entertaining... but not really great. Hmm... crap...

(( Hiroshi Hase vs. Shinya Hashimoto (12/11/94 – IWGP Title) ))
Terrific match. Hase's last great singles match.

NOTE: Add the following matches:
12/95 Mutoh vs. Koshinaka
02/97 Hash vs. Yamazaki
06/97 Hash vs. Mutoh
The first is probably the best. But the other two have gotten high praise in some circles, including some of the DVDVR folks.

(( Genichiro Tenryu vs. Kenji Mutoh (5/3/99 – IWGP Title) ))
Ugh.

(( Kenji Muto vs. Satoshi Kojima – (7/20/99 - IWGP Title) ))
More ugh.
Okay matches. Just not that great.

(( IWGP Tag Titles
Kenji Mutoh/Masa Chono vs. Hiroshi Hase/Kensuke Sasaki (11/1/90 – IWGP Tag Titles) ))
Top 20 lock. Terrific match. In the context of it's time, an amazing match.

NOTE: There are other 1990-91 IWGP Tag Title matches to add. I'll have to look them up to refresh my memory, but Hase & Sasaki churned out a few if quick order between here and the 3/91 Steiner match.

NOTE: Add the following:
11/05/91 Mutoh & Hase vs. Rick Steiner & Scott Norton
Simply a terrific match for the vacant IWGP titles. Super heated, tons of spots... just a terrific match.

(( Bam Bam Bigelow/Vader vs. Hiroshi Hase/Kenji Mutoh – "20th Anniversary Show" (3/1/92 – IWGP Tag Titles) ))
This was the title change, and it wasn't even a good match. Their great match was later in the year with Vader and Bigelow defending.

NOTE: Add:
04/92 Vader & Bigelow vs. Mutoh & Hase
This is the one where Hase bleds all over the place. Great match... worthy candidate for the Top 20 as one of the best "smaller guys vs. Monsters" match you'll see.

Well... the titles do seem to go to suck for a long period as the Hellraisers and JP hold them. But, it came out of the dark long before 1998.

NOTE: Add the following matches:
06/10/95 Chono & Tenzan vs. Hash & Hirata
06/12/96 Hash & Hirata vs. Yamazaki & Iizuka

These are a pair of excellent IWGP Tag Title matches. Super heated, very much like the Chono & Tanzan vs. Kosh & Tenryu cited below. Hash & Hirata were fine Tag Champs, even if they didn't always have good opponents to work with. Then Chono & Tenzan had a good feud with Yamazaki & Iizuka over the second half of 1996 with a number of ***1/2+ tag title and tag league matches. Not AJPW level of great matches, but entertaining. The two above were the best of the era. Setting aside the standard of tag matches in AJPW, they were damn fine.

(( Masa Chono/Tenzan vs. Shiro Koshinaka/Geniricho Tenryu (6/5/98 – IWGP Tag Title Tourney Finals) ))
I always felt this was a bit overrated. But it was a excellent match, similar to the 6/95 and 6/96 matches I listed. They all are of the same general level - quite a step below the AJPW high end tag level, but above most any other heavy tags you'd find in the world.

(( Other Juniors Title Matches
IWGP Jr.
Jushin Liger vs. Pegasus Kid (8/19/90 – IWGP Jr. Title)
Jushin Liger vs. Peagsus Kid (11/1/90 – IWGP Jr. Title) ))
The second is exceptional. I thought the first was a bit of a drop from the Liger vs. Sano level. The second would be a strong candidate for my Top 20 list.

(( Jushin Liger vs. Negro Casas – "Legends Show" (12/16/90 – IWGP Jr. Title) ))
"Very good match", but not worthy of being on the list.

(( Jushin Liger vs. Pegasus Kid (2/10/92 – IWGP Jr. & WCW Light Hvy. Titles) ))
Super forgotten match. I'm pleased it's on the list. Not as high spotty as your typical junior match, but the selling of the injury by Liger is great. Really great change of pace for a juniors match.

(( Jushin Liger vs. El Samurai (5/17/92 – IWGP Jr. Title) ))
I don't think this is close to the Super Jr. Final the prior month... so it wouldn't get a vote.

(( Ultimo Dragon vs. El Samurai (11/22/92 – IWGP Jr. Title) ))
I don't recall this as being all that great...

(( Shinjiro Ohtani vs. Koji Kanemoto (4/16/95 - IWGP Jr. vs. UWA Title) ))

Terrific match. Koji and Ohtani worked together very well in 1995.

NOTE: Add the 1/29/96 El Samurai vs. Ohtani UWA Title match. One of the decaded very best juniors matches, and because of the psych and mat work, one that will age better than most of the highspotfest. A Top 5 candidate for me the further removed we get from it and see how the division developed. The world would be a better place if they followed the path this match hinted at.

(( Jushin Liger vs. Shinjiro Ohtani (2/9/97 – J-Crown)
Jushin Liger vs. Koji Kanemoto (2/16/97 - J-Crown) ))
The first is a Top 5 candidate for me as well. Liger and Ohtani pay tribute to the 1/97 Misawa vs. Kobashi classic. Awesome match.
The second is a spotfest, and perhaps the best of the Liger vs. Koji. But I really don't enjoy how Koji works with Liger... probably won't make my list.

(( Jushin Liger vs. El Samurai (7/6/97 – J-Crown) ))
I didn't think this was all that great.

(( El Samurai vs. Shinjiro Ohtani – (8/10/97 – J-Crown) ))

NOTE: This is already up above on the Other Dome Show list.

(( Jushin Liger vs. Shinjiro Ohtani (2/7/98 – IWGP Jr. Title)
Jushin Liger vs. Koji Kanemoto (7/15/98 – IWGP Jr. Title)
Jushin Liger vs. Dr. Wagner, Jr. (2/6/99 - IWGP Jr. Title)
Jushin Liger vs. Koji Kanemoto (3/17/99 – IWGP Jr. Title) ))

I didn't think there were all that great...

(( J-Crown ))
Er... some are missing here. ;)

(( Other
Jushin Liger/Great Sasuke vs. Shinjiro Ohtani/Tatsuhito Takaiwa (7/13/99 – IWGP Jr. Tag Titles) ))
I haven't been a huge fan of the IWGP Jr. Tag Title matches. The matches are all excellent, but they seem to lack that certain extra kick that makes a AJPW tag match memorable.

(( Random Matches
1990
Jushin Liger vs. Naoki Sano (1/31/90) ))

NOTE: This is a IWGP Jr. Title match. Liger wins the title back.
Obviously a super classico.

(( Jushin Liger vs. Owen Hart (1/31/90) ))
NOTE: This is part of the 1990 IWGP Contenders Tourny. It's not officially part of the Top/Best of the Super Juniors line... but is along the same lines.

This never struck me as being at quite the same level as their match the following year. Really good, though.

(( Jushin Liger vs. Pegasus Kid (3/19/90) ))
NOTE: This was a IWGP Jr. Title match.

A excellent match... but I don't recall it being at the level of their matches later in the year.

(( Kenji Mutoh vs. Owen Hart (7/5/90) ))
I draw a massive blank on this one...

(( Hiroshi Hase vs. Great Muta (9/14/90) ))
Hase bled a lot. Other than that, this really wasn't all that good. Their classic was in 1992...

(( 1991
Hiroshi Hase vs. Jushin Liger (5/6/91) ))
A excellent long old style match with newer offensive moves mixed in. People were calling this a ***** match in 1991 off of the hand held copy. I never thought it was at that level... but do think it's a excellent match.

(( Steiner Brothers vs. Hiroshi Hase/Kensuke Sasaki (5/26/91) ))
NOTE: This was a IWGP Tag Title match.
NOTE: The date was 05/31/91.
Typical great match... but I still like the 3/91 better. :)

(( Jushin Liger vs. Pegasus Kid (7/4/91 - Mask vs. Mask) ))
I don't recall this match. Hmm...

(( Jushin Liger vs. Pegasus Kid (10/18/91) ))
This may be the match that aired on WCW Saturday Night. Terrific match...

(( 1992 ))
NOTE: Add:
05/92 Koshinaka vs. Aoyagi
This was the climax of the Dojo Sign Feud, which was one of the very best under card jaborni feuds of the entire decade in any promotion. Koshinaka was a GOD in carrying a host of limited or simply poor workers to an extremely heated feud that was actually damn entertaining. Classic NJPW "worked shoot" crap that the crowds ate up. Boat loads of fun, dramatic, intense, and Kosh being the glue holding it together. No... this isn't pretty. But it's classic NJPW "making something out of nothing".

(( Hiroshi Hase vs. Masa Chono (12/11/92) ))
A excellent old school match. I like the 1/93 Mutoh vs. Chono better, and the Hase vs. Muta from this same month... but this trio did kick out three excellent match in less than a month.

(( Hiroshi Hase vs. Great Muta (12/14/92) ))
I liked this match a lot, far more than just going ga-ga over the buckets of juice. The actually _wrestled_ in between all the bloodletting, with both throwing out the suplexes left and right. Loads of drama with Hase coming off of the win over Chono and looking like he could dump Muta here. This will make my Top 20.

NOTE: Add:
12/14/92 Tenryu vs. Koshinaka
A forgotten excellent match, with Koshinaka making Tenryu look strong going into the Dome showdown with Choshu.

(( Jushin Liger/Koji Kanemoto vs. Ultimo Dragon/Masahiro Orihara (12/19/92) ))
NOTE: I think this a year end WAR show, hence it should be off the ballot. The New Japan series ended with the two big shows with Hase vs. Chono and Hase vs. Muta.

(( 1993
Jushin Liger/El Samurai vs. Noriho Honaga/Ultimo Dragon (4/2/93) ))
This was pretty damn choice as I recall. Probably the best junior match in the NJ vs. WAR feud... as Dragon was banged up and off his game during it.

NOTE: Two matches should be added:
6/93 Tenryu vs. Hashimoto
8/93 Tenryu vs. Hashimoto

Both are vastly better than the 8/98 Dome one cited. They aren't at the level of the 8/98 G1 Climax match or their 2/94 forgotten gem.

(( Hiroshi Hase vs. Genichiro Tenryu (9/23/93) ))
I like this a lot... but I wouldn't go anywhere past **** on it. Not a Top 20 candidate.

(( Jushin Liger/Pegasus Kid vs. Shinya Hashimoto/Masa Chono – SG Tag League '97 (10/25/93) ))
NOTE: This is Wild Pegasus.

I thought this was in the range of a ***1/2 match. Nifty to see the juniors win... but not all that great.

(( 1994 ))
NOTE: Add:
2/94 Tenryu vs. Hash
This was a mother of a match as Hash got his first win over Tenryu. I like this better than the 8/98 G1 climax match.

NOTE: Add:
2/94 Hashimoto vs. Liger
It's not a classic, but these two do bust their asses to try to make a believable match of Junior Champ facing The Man. And it does "work", which is a tribute to the two. An excellent match.

(( Jushin Liger/Pegasus Kid vs. Steiners Brothers (4/4/94) ))
NOTE: This is Wild Pegasus.
Fun match. It won't make my list... but this was a load of fun at the time.

(( Jushin Liger vs. Great Sasuke (7/8/94)
Hiro Hase/Kenji Mutoh vs. Steiners Brothers (7/8/94) ))
I like these matches quite a bit. I don't rate them as highly as Meltzer did (***** and ****1/2 respectively), but I did enjoy them. I think I like the Liger vs. Sasuke here better than their J-Cup match, in fact. Good candidate...

(( Great Sasuke/Black Tiger vs. Wild Pegasus/Shinjiro Ohtani – SG Jr. Tag League '94 (10/16/94 - Finals) ))
Exceptional match. Craploads of fun. This is an easy Top 20 match.

(( 1995
Pegasus Kid vs. Koji Kanemoto (3/13/95) ))
NOTE: This is a IWGP Jr. Title match.
NOTE: This is Wild Pegasus.
It's pretty choice. Koji was improving at the time... and Benoit did a hell of a job with him. Not Top 20 for me, but 1995 was a lot of fun to watch Koji and Ohtani "grow up" while Liger was on the shelf.

(( 1996
Jushin Liger vs. Shinjiro Ohtani (3/17/96) ))
NOTE: This is a IWGP Jr. Title match.
I frigging LOVE this match. Awesome finish as Liger puts the Shootay on the map. Not as good as their match the following February which plays off this, but a strong Top 20 candidate.

(( Pegasus Kid vs. Shinjiro Ohtani (3/20/96) ))
NOTE: This is the WCW Cruiserweight Title Final
NOTE: This is Wild Pegasus.
Great match, with Pegasus using the Ohtani Killer Powerbomb and Ohtani answering with the Swan Dive DDT that were both all hurty and stuff. Boatloads of fun.

(( 1997 ))
NOTE: Add:
01/97 Liger & Samurai & Honaga vs. Kanemoto & Ohtani & Takaiwa
This did a great job of defining the Liger & Sammy & Co. vs. Kanemoto & Ohtani & Co. feud.

NOTE: Add:
03/97 Liger & Samurai & Pegasus vs. Kanemoto & Otani & Takaiwa
A rare appearance of 3/4 of the Jr. Horsemen and a joy to watch.

(( Jushin Liger/Pegasus Kid vs. Shinjiro Ohtani/Tatsuhito Takawia (3/18/97) ))
NOTE: This is Wild Pegasus. :)
Terrific match.

(( Liger/Naniwa/Jericho/Wagner vs. Ohtani/Takaiwa/Tajiri/Hanzo (6/28/97) ))
Er... not especially great.

(( Jushin Liger/Kendo Ka Shin vs. Shinjiro Ohtani/Koji Kanemoto (9/17/97) ))
I don't recall this as being anything above "normal" for the teams. Excellent... but...

(( Shinjiro Ohtani vs. Jushin Liger (10/19/97)
Koji Kanemoto vs. El Samurai (10/22/97) ))
There were a number of excellent singles matches in this series... which was a very oddly booked series by Liger to be tossing them all out. But I don't recall any of them quite reaching MOTYC level.

(( Ka Shin/Liger/Samurai vs. Kanemoto/Takaiwa/Ohtani (10/31/97 – Elimination Match) ))
Terrific match. It won't make my Top 20, but it was a terrific match.

(( Liger/Samurai/Ka Shin vs. Ohtani/Kanemoto/Takaiwa (11/22/97) ))
Another of the "excellent but not MOTYC" level matches. The rivalry had a ton of excellent tag matches, like the Jumbo & Co. vs. Misawa & Co. series. To vote for these, you really need them to be memorable... and the tags while high on great matches were low on memorable one.

(( 1998
Jushin Liger/Dr. Wagner, Jr. vs. Koji Kanemoto/Shinjiro Ohtani (3/14/98) ))
See above...

(( Kojima/Fujinami vs. Tenryu/Koshinaka (4/14/98) ))
Eh...

(( Jushin Liger/Kendo Ka Shin vs. Shinjiro Ohtani/Tatsuhito Takaiwa (4/14/98)
Liger/Kashin/Samurai vs. Takawia/Kanemoto/Ohtani (4/21/98) ))
More of the same. Great matches... but none of these stick out like the 7/2/93 AJPW six-man tag main event.

(( 1999
Jushin Liger vs. Shinjiro Ohtani (1/27/99) ))
Yikes... I didn't even think this was especially "good".

(( Koji Kanemoto vs. Minoru Tanaka (6/27/99)
Pegasus Kid vs. Jushin Liger (10/17/99) ))
I think these were victim of my late-90s boredom with the juniors. Too bad on my part...

I'll look up the dates for the matches I recommended to be added...

John